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The ‘Summer Madness’ of an invite to Brian McLaren

and a look inside ‘The Mind’ of Tony Campolo 

This article has turned out to be much longer and a lot more ‘in depth’ than I thought it would be. Nevertheless I believe it is one of urgent and great importance as it highlights the danger posed, particularly to young professing Christians by men who, as you will read, are ‘wresting [twisting, torturing] the scriptures’ [2 Peter 3:16 to the destruction of both themselves and others and are also ‘perverting [transforming into something of an opposite character; totally changing] the gospel of Christ’ [Galatians 1:7].

 

Just recently I was informed by a brother in Christ that details had been posted to a website of some of the invited speakers for the planned 2007 ‘Summer Madness’ event. On the website http://www.tatch.tv/Resources/SM%202007.jpg it states the following –

 

‘Summer Madness is celebrating its 21st anniversary next year. Help us blow out our candles between 29th June and 7th July 2007with special guests Bart Campolo, David Nasser and Brian McLaren’.

 

The brother who drew this to my attention was quite rightly concerned about the invite that had been extended to Brian McLaren. Before I come to analyse the beliefs of Mr McLaren let me just give some background information on this now annual ‘Summer Madness’ event. The following snippets from a number of websites give a flavour of the history and aims of this event.

 

The first Summer Madness camp began in July 1987 in an attempt to provide encouragement for Christians to look seriously at their faith, and the challenge of a radical lifestyle…having begun as a canvas camp for some 250 young people, leaders and staff, in just 3 years the numbers attending had risen to just over 1500. (The Festival now attracts roughly 4000 people - camping and visiting throughout the week-end.) The camp was based initially in Castle Archdale Country Park, Co. Fermanagh…It moved location to Gosford Forest Park in Co. Armagh in 1992 to facilitate the early expansion and joined forces with the New Horizon Family Bible Week to buy a 3000-seater tent in 1994…Then due to the 'Foot and Mouth' crisis in 2001 the Festival moved to the King's Hall complex in Belfast. The Summer Madness Management recently made the decision to continue in Belfast…Little did the Church of Ireland Youth Council realise what God was starting back in 1987 when it initiated a small summer camp with an outrageous name.’

http://www.ballyscullion.com/Magazine_Summer_05.htm

 

‘Summer Madness, Ireland's premier outdoor Christian Festival, celebrates its 12th year in style this year [1998]. Around 4000 young people are expected to descend on Gosford forest park (near Armagh) between Friday 26th June and Tuesday 30th June for what promises to be an exceptional event! As in previous years the programme boasts an impressive diversity in music, drama, debate, worship, workshops, and activities. Speakers this year include the world-renowned, controversial Tony Campolo whose infectious enthusiasm, social conscience and profound message make listening to what he has to say a must!…The other main speaker this year is firebrand, Alf Cooper**, who has spent 15 years working with SAMS in Chile…As ever the arts programme for the event promises to be spectacular with the welcome return of the hugely popular Soul Food Café and the launch of Re-Activate, a new live music venue. Acts include local and overseas, names: Booley House, Halcyon Days, Beehive, Hydro, DBA, and Fruit’

http://www.ireland.anglican.org/archives/newsbrief/nbarchive1998/nb9805.html

** The name Alf Cooper was new to me so herewith is a short report compiled by Mr Cooper and his wife that can be accessed on this website

http://www.samsgb.org/recentnews.html

 

What a weekend!

Alf and Hilary Cooper report on another extraordinary encounter

"We have just returned from a mission in Chol Chol, the cradle of Anglicanism in Chile. We were invited by a Pastor Joel and his wife, wanting to see for themselves how Anglicans can experience a visitation of the Holy Spirit.  "The Lord led the seminar at which there were over 100 leaders, first covering the themes of Repentance, the Cross and the Person of the Holy Spirit. Then He came! There was such a powerful manifestation of God's presence and loving power that not a soul went untouched. People were converted on the Saturday night evangelistic meeting, beamed over the area by the radio. "There were such wonderful healings and deliverances of abused youth that the entire community acknowledged the hand of God. One woman with a huge stomach protuberance was healed before our eyes (and filmed!), weeping as her stomach noticeably flattened out. One missionary, now married and living there, said: "I have waited 45 years to see what I am seeing here today!" Another stalwart, responsible member of the PCC who had been a little suspicious of such things said: "Look at me, with my hands in the air worshipping God! I would never have imagined it!" "Our team from the richer sector of Las Condes [Santiago] was very challenged and enjoyed every minute of the holy hospitality and testimony of these materially poorer, but spiritually richer Christian brothers and sisters they met. What a weekend!"

 

The Belfast Telegraph of Saturday 1 July 2006 carried several reports on this years event and herewith are a few extracts from those reports –

 

‘This weekend’s Summer Madness Christian festival at the King’s Hall, Belfast is a sell-out. More than 3500 people are camping out in the grounds…Among the highlights are the debates such as ‘This house believes all XXXXing swearing is wrong’ and discussions on the Da Vinci code and Intelligent Design and Evolution…Summer Madness has become a fixture in Ireland’s Christian youth calendar. With speakers like Mike Pilavachi**, Phil Collins and Tre Sheppard and renowned worship leaders like Tim Hughes and Johnny Parks, it promises to be another landmark in the long history of the event’

 

‘’U105 Radio presenter Julian Martin will present his Sunrise programme tomorrow live from 7.00am-10.00am at Summer Madness…we…try to introduce people to the huge variety of Christian music styles now available. For every mainstream style, there’s a Christian equivalent which many people are not aware of’

 

** The name Mike Pilavachi was also new to me so I thought I would share just a few extracts of an interview with him that is posted on this website –

 

http://www.jesus.org.uk/ja/mag_talkingto_pilavachi.shtml

 

Mike Palavachi is being interviewed by Huw Lewis editor of Jesus Life and member of the Apostolic Team of the Jesus Fellowship’.

 

HUW:  What were the significant moments in your own spiritual journey to finding Jesus?

Mike: I became a Christian just before my 16th birthday. I’d been a complete non-Christian up until then, but I was searching for something and seeking alternatives, like Christian Science. Then some Christians came out of the woodwork and explained to me the gospel and I realised that Christianity wasn’t about rules and regulations and going to institutions, but it was a relationship with a person. I met Jesus as a result of that and I gave my life to Him. Soon afterwards, I heard about what it meant to be filled with the Holy Spirit and receive the gifts of the Spirit. I was desperate for that and kept asking on my own. Nothing happened so I went to a couple who were leading my home group, and asked them to pray for me. They didn’t know what they were doing any more than I did! So they sat in one corner of the room, I sat in the other, and we just sat in silence and prayed! After an hour, suddenly the Holy Spirit came upon me. It was the most wonderful meeting with Jesus, in such a fresh way – knowing God was in me and God was with me!… So, I spent the next two months walking round Harrow without any shoes on, trying to be like Jesus! I did the most ridiculous, crazy things like that!… My home is within the Anglican church and I want to be a loyal, committed member of this bit of the body. But I also love the whole church, and I’m not really a denominationally-minded person. What’s amazing is young people come to our festivals from every denomination and non-denomination and we want to serve them all.

 

What was the fruit of ‘Soul in the City’ in London during July, 2004?

We learned what can happen when God’s people come together. We had 770 partner churches, 30 per cent of which were black majority churches. A number of large churches were involved: Holy Trinity Brompton, Kensington Temple, All Souls Langham Place and others.

Who are the spiritual heroes that have particularly influenced you most?

Not in any order - John Wimber, who was by no means perfect as a person and yet in his imperfection and his weaknesses he had a boldness and he carried something powerful. I hope I can emulate the generosity, warmth, humility and encouragement of David Pytches, who is my spiritual father, and bring that to others.

No doubt these few items will convey clearly to some readers an informative impression of the theological position and worship approach to God that appears to be for the most part adopted by Summer Madness.

 

 

I want now to address the matter of the invitation to Brian McLaren

to be a guest speaker at the planned 2007 Summer Madness event.

 

My first ‘encounter’ with Brian McLaren occurred with the controversy that blew up with the publication of Steve Chalke’s book ‘The Lost Message of Jesus’. When I obtained a copy and looked at the back cover it had this endorsement on it –

 

‘The Jesus introduced by Steve in these pages sounds

like someone who can truly save us from our trouble’

Brian McLaren [Author of ‘The Church on the Other Side].

 

So, according to Brian McLaren, Steve Chalke’s ‘Jesus’ can solve the problem of man’s ‘trouble’. What exactly is man’s ‘trouble’’, his real but often ignored or unrecognised ‘trouble’? Well, it is summarised very succinctly in the opening words of the well-known hymn ‘I stand amazed’ that goes on to refer to the obviously now Christian believer as having been ‘a sinner, condemned, unclean’. That’s some ‘trouble’ and that is the real ‘trouble’ of every unregenerate, non-Christian. How does a just and holy God solve this ‘trouble’ that man is in? It is beautifully set out in the words of 2 Corinthians 5:21 where we read “For he [God] hath made him [Christ] who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him [Christ]”.

 

In a previous article that I wrote about Steve Chalke I included the following –

 

In his book ‘The Murder of Jesus’ Pastor John MacArthur gives an explanation of what Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 5:21 of how God “hath made Him [Christ] who knew no sin to be sin for us”.  Pastor MacArthur wrote [p71&73] ‘When Christ hung on the cross, He was bearing the sins of His people and He was suffering the wrath of God on their behalf. Second Corinthians 5:21 explains the cross in a similar way “He made him who knew no sin to be sin for us”. In other words, on the cross, God imputed our sin to Christ and then punished Him for it (cf. 1 Peter 2:24)…The holy Son of God who had never known even the most insignificant sin would become sin – an object of God’s fury’ and that is penal substitution.

 

That is how God solved the problem of man’s ‘trouble’ and that is how  “He [God] might be just [rightly punish sin] and the justifier [declare a sinner ‘not guilty’ and free from the condemnation that his sin merits] of him who believeth in Jesus” [Romans 3:26].

 

This then is the true ‘Jesus’ who really saves believers from their ‘trouble’ and God’s solution was by the means of ‘penal substitution’. The problem with Steve Chalke’s ‘Jesus’ is that according to his thinking, on the cross his ‘Jesus’ was ‘NOT suffering the wrath of God on their [sinners’] behalf’.

 

Steve Chalke wrote [blasphemously] in his book on pages 182-183 The fact is that the cross isn’t a form of cosmic child abuse – a vengeful Father, punishing his Son, for an offence he has not even committed’. What a testimony to the truth of God’s Word in 1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness”! In reports I have [and will share extracts from later] Brian McLaren echoed the same [blasphemous] thoughts with his rejection of ‘penal substitution’ as being divine child abuse’.

 

Rather than again rehearse in this article all the Biblical arguments against the heretical views of both Steve Chalke and Brian McLaren on this soul-saving issue let me direct readers to the following articles posted on our website –

 

http://www.takeheed.net/DECEMBER2004.htm

http://www.takeheed.net/MARCH2005.htm

http://www.takeheed.net/SEPTEMBER2005.htm

http://www.takeheed.net/JUNE2006.htm

 

The upshot of all of this is that Brian McLaren has unreservedly given his endorsement to Steve Chalke’s ‘false Christ’ [see Matthew 24:11&24], a ‘Christ’ who is incapable of saving sinners from their greatest ‘trouble’ namely the just wrath and condemnation against sin meted out by a Holy God.

 

My second ‘encounter’ with Brian McLaren occurred when yet again I came across his endorsement on the back cover of a book. This time it was ‘Speaking my Mind’ by Tony Campolo and this was Brian McLaren’s endorsement

 

‘If you paid the full price for this book and only got chapter 8,

you’d be getting a great bargain. The same is true for

chapters 4, 6, 9, 10, and 11. At a time when the term

“evangelical” is up for grabs, Tony’s voice needs to be heard’

[Brian McLaren – pastor & author of ‘A New Kind of Christian’].

 

For those who may be wondering, I didn’t pay ‘full price’ as it was on ‘special’ in the bookstore that I purchased it in. That aside, as we now ‘take a look inside the “mind” of Tony Campolo’ I want to quote some extracts from 4 of the chapters Brian McLaren drew special attention to [coupled with my own thoughts on the extracts quoted] and leave it to you to judge whether ‘Tony’s voice needs to be heard’ and whether he has laid for himself a legitimate claim to the term ‘evangelical’. I am persuaded that this book is laced with scripture contradicting thoughts and ideas from a man who rightly said about himself in his ‘Preface’ [XI & XII] ‘Over the years I have had to change opinions and beliefs that I once held with dogmatic fervour. Now there are fewer and fewer things about which I am absolutely certain…It is as a struggling Christian that I try in these pages to make valid cases for some of the most pressing concerns of our times’.

 

That self-analysis by Tony Campolo rather flies in the face of what is written on both the front and back covers of the book – ‘The Radical Evangelical Prophet Tackles the Tough Issues Christians Are Afraid to Face…He offers convincing interpretations of the Bible on such bedrock issues as ordination of women and the right response to homosexuality’ - whatever happened to the struggling Christian’? Herewith the extracts -

 

Chapter 4: Is Evangelicalism Sexist?

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

We read on pages 33, 36 & 37

 

‘I got into big-time trouble when I declared to the 2003 gathering of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship that those who prevented women from being ordained to the preaching ministry were perpetrating an evil practice…Those who defend the practice of barring women…are likely to quote 1 Timothy 2:11-12…Paul made clear that Jesus’s death on the cross abolished the second-class religious status that women had in Judaism (Ephesians 2:13-22)…

 

 

Tony Campolo is wrong in his assertion here – these verses have NOTHING to do with the supposed ‘second-class status of women in Judaism’ but have ALL to do with the removal, because of the redeeming and reconciling work of Christ on the cross, of any social, religious and spiritual separation or segregation between former Jews and Gentiles who, as Christians, are now “in one body” [verse 16]

 

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

We also read on page 37

 

“There is therefore neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus” [Galatians 3:28]

 

Tony Campolo quotes this verse supposedly to make a case for the office/role of women preachers but this verse in Galatians has NOTHING to do with the offices or a role that may be occupied by those mentioned, but has ALL to do with the equality of their spiritual standing before God. God here focuses on the fact that “all in Christ Jesus” are “one” and by that he means they are all equally part of “the body of Christ” (see 1 Corinthians 12:12-14) but Paul goes on in the verses that follow in 1 Corinthians 12 to highlight the diverse offices/roles occupied by the differing members of that “body”. Paul writes in verse 18 “But now hath God set the members, every one of them, in the body, as it hath pleased him and from other verses of scripture it is clear that it has “pleased” God to only have male preachers ordained.

 

Pastor John MacArthur commenting on Galatians 3:28 phrased it well in his ‘Study Bible’ – ‘This verse does not deny that God has designed for racial, social and sexual distinctions among Christians, but if affirms that those do not imply spiritual inequality before God. Nor is this spiritual equality incompatible with the God-ordained roles of leadership and submission in the church, society and at home. Jesus Christ, though fully equal with the Father, assumed a submissive role during His Incarnation (Philippians 2:5-8)’.

 

The following link will lead to a more thorough and I believe also very helpful article on this issue and it will refute many of the arguments that Tony Campolo puts up for his support of the office/role of ‘women preachers’

 

 

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/womenpreachers.htm

 

 

Chapter 6: Is There A Second Chance

For Those Who Die Without Christ?

 

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

Tony Campolo on

pages 77-78

 says

‘As a guest on the TV show Crossfire…with the TV preacher, Jerry Falwell, [he] sprang a question that caught me off guard…he asked whether or not people who did not know Jesus as personal Saviour could go to heaven…I hesitated before I even tries to answer…After a few seconds I feebly tried to respond by saying something about what Paul wrote in Romans 2:14-15…I began to make the case that God would judge people – including those who had never heard the gospel – on the basis of the light and truth about God that had been available to them. It didn’t wash…I was showered by emails, letters and phone calls condemning my hesitancy and my weak answer…Most evangelicals wanted me to state with certainty and confidence that only those who clearly understood declarations of Jesus as Saviour in this life would escape the fires of hell’.

 

I believe that no believer should hesitate when it comes to answering this question. I am convinced the teaching of Scripture gives a clear answer of “No” to this question. The testimony of the Lord in John 14:6 and of Peter in Acts 4:12 is clear – Christ ALONE is the only way to The Father [to heaven]. Some argue of course that they agree with this “narrow way” [Matthew 7:13-14] BUT they then speculate – does that mean that people have to actually HEAR about the gospel of Christ’s redeeming work for sinners, as outlined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4? They claim that Christ alone has opened the way for people to get to heaven but they also believe that the benefits of His redeeming work on the cross can be applied to individuals even if they never personally hear the gospel preached to them. These heavenly benefits can apparently be applied if people respond sufficiently to whatever ‘light and truth about God’ they have been exposed to. It is crucial to realise that true believers will NOT be judged on the question of entry INTO heaven – that matter was settled in time when they were ‘born again’ – as Peter puts it in 1 Peter 1:23 “born again, not of corruptible seed [the soul-damning ideas/philosophies/wisdom of men] but of incorruptible, by the word of God [the message of God’s Word is indispensable to someone being ’born again’]. Believers will face a judgement to determine ‘rewards’ given to them IN heaven [see 1 Corinthians 3:12-15; 9:24-25; 2 Corinthians 5:9-10]. ALL others will be judged about the degree of punishment they will have to endure in hell [see the Lord’s teaching in Luke 12:45-48]. Commenting on these verses Pastor John MacArthur in his Study Bible writes ‘That there will be varying degrees of punishment in hell is clearly taught in Matthew 10:15; 11:22, 24: Mark 6:11 and Hebrews 10:29’. In Romans chapter 2, Paul makes plain in verse 12 that those who have been exposed to “law” [God’s Word] and are not converted, then they will be judged [for their degree of punishment in hell] by that same “law”. He also explains that those who have never been exposed to “law” [God’s Word], whilst they won’t be judged [for their degree of punishment in hell] by “law”, they will nevertheless be judged by how they responded to the promptings of their conscience [see verse 15] because the promptings of the God-given conscience actually mirror much that is contained in “the law” [see verse 14]. Those “without law” will, in like-fashion, be condemned as guilty sinners just like the unconverted “in the law”. This is how Paul states it clearly in verse 12 “For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish [in hell – no entry into heaven here! ‘Perish’ means “the loss of well-being in the case of the unsaved hereafter’ – Vines’s Expository Dictionary page 164 under ‘Destroy!] without law; and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged [for their degree of punishment in hell] by the law”.

 

 

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

Tony Campolo continues on pages 79-80

 

‘There is another way of looking at this matter of heaven and hell that I believe deserves our serious consideration. It is in the preaching and writings of English theologian and novelist, George MacDonald.

 

MacDonald is the writer whom C S Lewis [a virtual Roman Catholic] as well as the great British essayist, G K Chesterton [an actual Roman Catholic] credited with some of his best insights.

 

MacDonald offered us the possibility that there could be opportunities for those who reject Jesus in this life, or never had the chance to know about Him, to repent and surrender to His transforming love after death…

 

some biblical passages support what MacDonald had to say

 

we find in 1 Peter 3:19 and 4:6 CLEAR [emphasis Cecil’s] references to the claim that Jesus goes to preach to those who are imprisoned in a place of death.

 

These are the kinds of passages that MacDonald said upheld his beliefs about the afterlife.

Do the passages in Peter make it CLEAR that Jesus, after His death [1 Peter 3:18] gave dead people a further opportunity to believe on Him and be saved by going and preaching to their ‘imprisoned’ spirits. My studies into this yielded ‘2 other schools of thought’ from that advanced by George MacDonald and which held a strong attraction for Tony Campolo.

Matthew Henry commenting on 1 Peter 3:19-20 wrote ‘The apostle passes from the example of Christ, to that of the old world and sets before the Jews…the different event of those who believed and obeyed Christ, preaching by Noah, from those that continued disobedient and unbelieving, intimating to the Jews that they were under like sentence. They had now an offer of mercy…but those who rejected Christ…should be as certainly destroyed as ever the disobedient in the days of Noah were…Because they were dead and disembodied when the apostle speaks of them [the disobedient of Noah’s days] therefore he properly calls them spirits now in prison, not that they were in prison when Christ [by Noah] preached to them. They were disobedient…and…their sin is aggravated from the patience and longsuffering of God…while Noah was preparing the ark…as well as by his preaching’.

Matthew Henry clearly does not view this as a ‘further opportunity’ for dead people to believe to the saving of their soul. Likewise in relation to 1 Peter 4:6 Matthew Henry does not see this as being ‘second-chance’ evangelism for those already dead.

Louis Berkhof in his ‘Systematic Theology’ wrote on page 341 ‘1 Peter 3:18-19…This passage is supposed to refer to the descent into Hades [by Christ] and to state the purpose of it. The Spirit referred to is then understood to be the soul of Christ and the preaching must have taken place between His death and resurrection. But the one is just as impossible as the other. The Spirit mentioned is not the soul of Christ but the quickening Spirit…The common Protestant interpretation of this passage is that in the Spirit, Christ preached through Noah to the disobedient that lived before the flood, who were spirits in prison when Peter wrote and could therefore be designated as such.

Berkhof wrote when referring to 1 Peter 4:6 ‘The “dead” to whom the gospel was preached were evidently not yet “dead” when it was preached unto them, since the purpose of this preaching was in part “that they might be judged according to men in the flesh”. This could only take place during their life on earth’. Berkhof then adds ‘In all probability the writer refers to the same spirits in prison of which he spoke in the preceding chapter [3]’.

The second ‘school of thought’ finds expression on page 481 of Vine’s Expository Dictionary where under the comments on ‘Preaching’ we read this ‘1 Peter3:19 the probable reference is, not to glad tidings, [evangelistic ‘gospel’ preaching] but to the act of Christ after His resurrection in proclaiming His victory to fallen angelic spirits’.

Pastor John MacArthur follows an almost similar line of explanation when he writes in his Study Bible ‘Between Christ’s death and resurrection, His living Spirit went to the demon spirits bound in the abyss and proclaimed that, in spite of His death, He had triumphed over them. “spirits in prison”, this refers to fallen angels (demons)…who have been there since the time of Noah’. Commenting on 1 Peter 4:6 John MacArthur wrote ‘Peter had in mind believers who had heard and accepted the gospel of Christ when they were still alive, but who had died by the time Peter wrote this letter’.

 

 

When you reflect on these ‘2 schools of thought’ I hope that like me you will be convinced that the meaning of these passages is not in any way as ‘CLEAR’ as claimed by Tony Campolo. Both of these ‘schools of thought’, although differing greatly, have this in common – both reject any notion of the passages meaning that dead people will be given a ‘further opportunity’ to believe on Christ.

 

Perhaps you’re wondering which of the ‘2 schools of thought’ I would lean towards – well I feel most comfortable with the explanation offered by Matthew Henry and believe that it has much to commend it

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

Also n pages 80-85

Tony Campolo wrote

 

In Ephesians 4:9-10 we read “Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things”.

 

Is this not a reference to a Jesus who refuses to give up on people even when they reject Him in this life?…

 

When Jesus called Peter to be the key leader of Christendom …(Matthew 16:18) Does this verse not imply that a church that declares the salvation message will invade hell itself’ [Rome and The Mormons would really love these last thoughts!]...

 

I find myself drawn to MacDonald’s theology about the destinies of the lost. That sort of thinking appealed to me before I ever read his novels or his sermons…I am not saying that I am convinced that MacDonald is right but I would be less than forthright if I did not admit that his convictions make sense to me’

 

 

 

 

 

Tony Campolo clearly believes that the references in Ephesians 4:9-10 to “he…descended” are references to Christ going into ‘hell’ after His death in an attempt to evangelise and save those already there and Mr Campolo even suggests that the evangelising mission of the church can extend to those in ‘hell’.

Louis Berkhof in his ‘Systematic Theology’ wrote on page 341 concerning Ephesians 4:9 ‘The apostle argues that the ascent of Christ presupposes a descent. Now the opposite of the ascension is the incarnation, cf. John 3:13. Hence the majority of commentators take the expression as referring simply to the earth. The expression may be derived from Psalm 139:15 and refer more particularly to the incarnation’.

Pastor John MacArthur in his Study Bible wrote concerning the expression “He…descended” – ‘This refers to Christ’s incarnation when He came down from heaven, as a man into the earth’ and concerning the expression “the lower parts of the earth” he writes ‘These are in contrast to the highest heavens to which He afterward ascended’.

 

 

As a final thought on these passages in 1st Peter and Ephesians 4 I want to quote from page 123 of my ‘Dictionary of Theological Terms’ by Rev Alan Cairns. Responding to the suggestion that 1 Peter 3:18-20 gives ‘a second chance’ to those who died in their sins, Mr Cairns writes ‘This idea may be easily disposed of. The Scripture does not proclaim any other day of grace and gospel opportunity than the one enjoyed before death. The passage cited simply means that Christ, by His Spirit, preached through Noah to men who were “disobedient” in Noah’s day and were condemned for their sin. Those disobedient and condemned sinners were “spirits in prison” in Peter’s day. The use of “sometime” clearly marks the disobedience and the preaching as contemporaneous [happening at the same time]. The longsuffering of God is shown in His waiting in the days of Noah, NOT in a ‘second chance’ after death…Furthermore Ephesians 4:8-10 teaches the incarnation of Christ, His descent into the world, not into Hades. Isaiah 44:23 uses similar terms with the evident contrast between this lower world of earth and [the higher world of] heaven’.

 

 

Chapter 8: Can We Help the Poor

Without Making Matters Worse? 

This is the chapter that Brian McLaren drew special attention to in his ‘endorsement’ on the back cover of the book. Without reproducing large quotations from it I would just summarise it as Tony Campolo’s assessment of all that is wrong with government economic and social policies around the world and a clarion call from him for Christians to involve themselves in all kinds of social action to alleviate the suffering and poverty of ALL the poor in the world [both inside the USA and beyond]. He speaks [page 126] of ‘a biblically prescribed mission – to be a voice for justice for the oppressed’. This ‘mission’ of course often involves an unbiblical, ‘ecumenical, so-called Christian, mix’, such as in the case of Habitat for Humanity and so it can be to the doctrinal detriment of the purity and truth of The Gospel. Consider carefully this statement [page 131] ‘The list of all that is going on under the auspices of churches, synagogues and mosques goes on and on’. The following item was published in our June 1999 NEWS FROM THE FRONT newsletter and illustrates the point I have just made –

 

Habitat For Humanity - Northern Ireland

 

I recently received unsolicited notification concerning the work of the above charity that described itself as ‘a Belfast-based cross-community Christian housing charity - part of the International Habitat for Humanity organisation’. A 4-page letter to ‘Dear friend’ outlined the purpose and goals, cited a practical example and invited me to help in these words ‘please don’t delay with your gift…you have it in your hands to change the future’. In this 4-page letter not one mention is made of Christ or Calvary being the foundation upon which true hope and peace is built as we read in 1st Corinthians 3:11. Instead we read ‘supporting cross-community projects is the most practical way you can play a part in building lasting peace in our communities’.

 

Whatever happened to prayer

and preaching the gospel?

 

In a 1992 Fact Sheet issued in advance of a visit to Belfast by the founder, Millard Fuller, we read ‘Habitat for Humanity International is an ecumenical Christian housing ministry…An ecumenical board of 29 people meets 3 times a year to determine policy and monitor operations’. The ‘ecumenical’ flavour of this organisation is well reflected in ‘The Patrons’ of the Northern Ireland operation. Listed amongst them are Roman Catholic Bishop Michael Dallat, former Presbyterian Moderator John Dunlop, Retired Church of Ireland Bishop Gordon McMullan, Presbyterian elder David Hewitt and Roman Catholic Monsignor Tom Toner. This organisation, enthusiastically endorsed by Paul Clark of UTV, is an embodiment of today’s popular but false social gospel that gives pride of place to human works rather than to Christ’s work.

 

Tony Campolo rounds off this chapter 8 in these words

‘On that great day, when each one of us must give an account of ourselves, we will be asked what we did to feed the hungry or to

reach out to help those who were in need or being oppressed.

Let’s make sure we have a good answer’.

I would surmise that Tony Campolo is basing this statement in

particular upon the Lord’s parable recorded in Matthew 25:31-46

 

A few years ago I produced a little booklet that detailed a series of exchanges between myself + 2 other brothers in Christ and local Roman Catholic priest, Patrick McCafferty. I want to quote some sections from that booklet, as I believe they address some of the same ‘social gospel’ ideas that Tony Campolo advances in this chapter of his book.

 

‘Numerous newspaper articles and ‘Take Heed’ Ministry guest book entries penned by local Roman Catholic priest Patrick McCafferty have prompted this article… [in particular Patrick’s teaching] that the Lord’s parable in Matthew 25:31-46 teaches that Those who will be saved are those who served Jesus in the poor and needy’ [Please keep in mind the closing words of Tony Campolo to this chapter that I quoted earlier] The ‘great commission’ is to preach the ‘gospel’ of ‘Jesus Christ and Him crucified’ so that sinners [rich or poor] may be saved from eternity in hell. The true ‘gospel’ offers ‘eternal life’ based solely on the finished work of Christ’s atonement…The ‘great commission’ is not to feed the ‘poor’ and starving else why would the Lord not have applauded those who suggested that the precious ointment used to anoint Him could have been sold and the money given to the ‘poor’ [see Mark 14:3-9]. Other passages of Scripture such as Proverbs 25:21-22 [quoted also by Paul in Romans 12:20] refer to how Christians are to treat poor ‘enemies’ and these kindly actions will also merit a “reward”…The distinction between kindly acts to Christ’s ‘brethren’ and to the rest of humanity is seen in Paul’s exhortation to Christians in Galatians 6:20 “As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all, especially unto them who are of the household of faith” [i.e. those who are Christ’s ‘brethren’]. This parable [Matthew 25:31-46] does not support Patrick McCafferty’s teaching that Those who will be saved are those who served Jesus in the poor and needy’.

 

Now I am not suggesting that Tony Campolo is, like Patrick McCafferty, making ‘social/charitable’ action a condition for salvation, but I believe he is using the same portion of scripture to include ‘social/charitable’ action in ‘The Great Commission’ and in this I think he is very wrong, based on his understanding of this particular portion of God’s Word.

 

‘The Great Commission’ has everything to do with the problem of ‘sin’ and yet in the whole of chapter 8 the word ‘sin’ never appears – I think the closest allusion to it is in the phrase ‘destructive behaviour’ [page 133] and even that misses the mark as it only deals with the effect of such actions on humans and not the offence that such actions cause to a Holy God.

 

Tony Campolo is attempting to primarily promote ‘carnal weapons’ [finance, politics, social/charitable action etc] to break worldwide ‘strongholds’ [see 2 Corinthians 10: 4] caused by the sin of fallen mankind instead of advocating the real Christian spiritual resources that can tackle these issues – resources such as the preaching of The Gospel, righteous living by God’s people with all that that implies and constant, impassioned prayer.

 

Individual Christians are commissioned to be ‘salt’ and ‘light’ in a corrupt and dark world and of course they must love God and their neighbour but ‘The Great Commission’ centres uniquely on the problem of ‘sin’ and its only remedy – a remedy that comes through the preaching of The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Once ‘the Church’ introduces ‘a biblically prescribed mission – to be a voice for justice for the oppressed’ then I believe they have gone astray and are preaching ‘another gospel’. In closing this section let me quote something by Dr Loraine Boettner from pages 30/31 of his book ‘Roman Catholicism’ under the heading of ‘The Church In Politics’ –

 

‘She [The Church] does not seek to become a political power rivalling the state, nor to become a state within a state. She must not allow herself to be used as a pressure group for the securing of certain rights and temporal benefits for men, nor to pressure the state for reform measures even though such reforms may be needed and desirable from the Christian viewpoint. Christians as individuals are indeed to work for whatever reforms may be needed but the Church is not to do so in her corporate capacity. Such action on the part of the Church almost invariably will detract from her primary mission of the proclamation of The Gospel and ministering to the spiritual needs of men and will tend to give people a wrong conception as to what her true mission really is’.

 

 

Chapter 9: Is Islam Really an Evil Religion?

 

For me personally this probably has to be the most disturbing chapter in this book as it focuses on what is, in today’s world, a very ‘hot potato’ and Tony Campolo, in my opinion, fails utterly to honestly and biblically address the question posed by his chapter heading. In the course of his search for the answer to the question he posed, he makes some very misleading and incorrect statements, and I want to address 2 of them before setting out my own thoughts as an answer to the question posed by this chapter. Firstly -

 

Tony Campolo

Cecil’s Comments

 

On pages 138-139 Tony Campolo wrote

 

‘Hosts on a variety of talk shows on Christian radio have stirred up negative reactions against Islam by citing a verse in the Koran in which Mohammed called for the death of “infidels” [unbelievers/non-Muslims].

 

The text they usually cite to justify such violent retaliation is this – ‘Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them whenever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them’ [The Koran: Sura 2 (Al –Baqarah) 190-194].

 

When asked about this passage from the Koran, a Muslim scholar contended that this passage must be read in context. Those in (a) non-Muslim tribe were staging regular terrorist attacks on the Muslims in Medina. These verses were not permission for terrorism. Instead they were a warning against terrorists…

 

It is completely unfair to judge Islam by this verse when the overwhelming emphasis of the Koran is to treat Jews and Christians with reverence and respect, to provide freedom for them to worship (but not to proselytise) in accord with their faith and to protect them against harm [The Koran: Sura 29:46]…

 

It is…wrong for us to take an isolated passage out of the Koran to demonise Mohammed or to define Allah as a God who wills the annihilation of non-Muslims’.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone reading what Tony Campolo has written would, I believe, come to the conclusion that the passage he quoted is the only passage in the whole of the Koran that is used by Muslims to justify the killing of ‘infidels’ including Jews and Christians. This is one of the ‘misleading’ and ‘incorrect’ statements by Tony Campolo that I referred to earlier. So what are the TRUE facts about the verses/passages in the Koran that are used by Mulsims to justify the killing of ‘infidels’? A very helpful web page can be accessed on

 http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html

and there you will find details of no less than 164 Jihad verses that are often used by Muslims to justify the killing of ‘infidels’. On this web page they are listed in the order that they appear in the Koran but people must understand that the Suras in the Koran are not listed chronologically [in the order the ‘revelations’ were given to Mohammed] but the Suras in the Koran are listed according to length [shortest first and so on]. ‘Revelations’ in Islam are subject to the law of ‘abrogation’ – in other words, if a later ‘revelation’ contradicts or cancels a previous ‘revelation’, then the latest ‘revelation’ over-rides the previous. This is very important when comparing/contrasting the verses that enjoin a peaceful approach to ‘infidels’ [early ‘revelations’] with the much more militant verses [later ‘revelations’] that sanction extreme violence against ‘infidels’. Here is one short quote from this web page -  ‘Abrogation is a reoccurring topic whenever verses of the Koran are discussed. As a rule, later verses counselling Holy War, such as the Sword Verse (Sura 9:5), abrogate earlier verses counselling tolerance and peace, such as Sura 2:256. The Sword Verse is just one of the 164 Jihad verses listed below. It follows that not many, if any, of the Holy War verses in this list are abrogated’.

From that quote we learn that the verses cited by Tony Campolo, from Sura 2, are actually part of a Sura containing  ‘earlier verses counselling tolerance and peace’. The ‘Sword Verse’ [Sura 9:5]