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FROM THE FRONT
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DECEMBER 2004
"Be not afraid or dismayed by reason of this great multitude for the battle is not yours but God's" (2nd Chronicles 20v15)
Dear
praying friends,
Yet
another year is drawing to a close and as time runs its course surely God’s
‘awake’ people can clearly see the outworking of that which is clearly predicted
in God’s Word. If today society has not already spiralled down and reached
the levels of days similar to those of Noah and
Your servant for Christ
CECIL ANDREWS
PHILIP YANCEY [PART TWO]
“turning
the grace of God into lasciviousness” Jude 4
Following
on from Part One I want now to address the interview given by Philip
Yancey to the ‘Rev.’ Candace Chellew-Hodge and to consider
whether Mr Yancey is guilty of “turning the grace of God into
lasciviousness”. The preamble to the interview, written by ‘Rev.’
Candace Chellew-Hodge is itself enlightening as it reveals the change
in her initial perception of Mr Yancey through reading some of his
books. Candace Chellew-Hodge wrote –
‘I first heard of
Philip Yancey when his book "What's So Amazing About Grace?" came out
in 1997. Even though many people whom I respected raved about the book, I was
not interested in reading the book. Why would I? It was written by a man who
regularly wrote for Christianity Today - a magazine that was less than gay
friendly. I'm not one to spend my precious reading time on authors who bash
gays and lesbians - or authors that I perceive might do that. I know their
positions and their arguments. Reading their books seemed like a waste of time.
I must now confess that I unfairly judged Yancey. I let a silly
"guilt-by-association" taint my opinion of him even before giving his
books a chance. I regret that, but perhaps God knows best. If I had read Yancey
in 1997 I might not have appreciated his gentleness, his grace or his mercy
quite as much as I do now. I finally gave in and read Yancey's work only after
I had subscribed to the audio book service Audible… Audible has a great
selection of Christian and spiritual books and I've consumed most of their
catalogue. It was during a dry spell, when I had exhausted much of the collection
that interested me that I turned to Yancey's new book, Rumours of Another
World. I had been in spiritual crisis and was looking for someone to explain to
me how to reach that supernatural world that we know exists, but somehow cannot
relate to or forget about in our daily rush. The description of the book
sounded intriguing so I put my preconceived notions of Yancey aside and
downloaded the book. What a blessing! The book was just what I needed. I did,
however, cringe through the chapter on "Designer Sex," waiting for
that bash against gays and lesbians. It never came. I was deeply shocked - an
evangelical who didn't use a chapter on sex to take a pot shot at homosexuals?
It was hard to imagine. The tone of the book led me to make another selection
by Yancey. Reaching for the Invisible God was another book I listened to with
an eager hunger. Finally, an author offered an intelligent treatment of faith,
doubt and how we relate to a God we cannot see. I was beginning to see why so
many people loved Yancey - and why others would not like him at all -
especially if they clung to a fundamentalist, black and white faith. Finally, I
decided to read "Grace". This book left me speechless and utterly
blessed. I want to start a church based solely on the teachings of this book -
of God's "grace on tap" for every person who walks through the door.
I think it should be required reading for every single church member on the
face of the earth… It was Yancey's description of his friendship with Mel White
in "Grace" that touched me most deeply. White's story, documented in
his own book Stranger at the Gate, has been well
documented in the gay and lesbian community… Shunned by his former employees,
White went on to found ‘Soulforce’, a social action group dedicated to the
spiritual equality of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender believers.
Yancey's steadfast support for his friend Mel, and *his own struggle with
the sinfulness of homosexuality* is documented in the book and is one of
the most honest accounts of grace in the face of struggle that I believe I have
ever read. It was this chapter that led me to write to Yancey and tell him how
much his books had moved me. He was kind enough to send me a reply that
emboldened me to ask for an interview. He agreed to an email interview, given
his busy schedule. I was amazed that he would lend his name to a publication
like ‘Whosoever’ - and eternally grateful. I cannot recommend his work strongly
enough. If you thirst for grace, peace and joy, read Yancey's works. You will
not be disappointed.
*I can confirm [as the
result of email exchanges with Candace Chellew-Hodge] that the
phrase in this preamble ‘his own struggle
with the sinfulness of homosexuality’ does refer to Philip Yancey’s ‘struggle’ and not to any ‘struggle’ by his homosexual friend, Mel White. It is not
my intention to publish and analyze in full the interview given, but rather to
quote extracts and to make comments. The full interview, detailing all the
questions posed by Candace Chellew-Hodge of Whosoever and setting
out, in full, the answers given by Philip
Yancey can
be viewed by following this link http://www.whosoever.org/v8i6/yancey.shtml
Question by Whosoever: In your
book "What's so Amazing about Grace?" you tell about your friendship
with ‘Soulforce’ leader Mel White and your support of him at the [‘gay’] March
on
Answer by Yancey:…Mel was one of my
closest friends for years before he revealed to me his sexual orientation. (He
still is, by the way.) He had repressed and hidden his homosexuality, and in
fact was married and was making a fine career in Christian publishing and
ministry…. I get hate letters full of equal venom from both sides: from
conservative Christians appalled that I would maintain a friendship with Mel
and write compassionately about gays and lesbians, and from the other side
wishing I would go further with a full endorsement…I'm sure of what my
own attitude should be toward gays and lesbians: I should show love and grace.
As one person told me, "Christians get very angry
toward other Christians who sin differently than they do." When
people ask me how I can possibly stay friends with a sinner like Mel, I respond
by asking how Mel can possibly stay friends with a sinner like me. Even
if I conclude that all homosexual behaviour is wrong, as many
conservative Christians do, I'm still compelled to respond with love. As
I've attended gay and lesbian churches, I'm also saddened that
the evangelical church by and large finds no place for homosexuals. I've met
wonderful, committed Christians who attend **MCC churches, and I wish
that the larger church had the benefit of their faith. And at the same
time, I think it's unhealthy to have an entire denomination formed around this
one particular issue--those people need exposure to and inclusion in the
wider Body of Christ. When it gets to particular matters of
policy, like ordaining gay and lesbian ministers, I'm confused, like a
lot of people. There are a few--not many, but a few passages of
Scripture that give me pause. Frankly, I don't know the answer to those
questions. My church in
**MCC refers to what is know as the Metropolitan
Community Church and from the website of the MCC in West Hollywood,
California we read the following – ‘The first Metropolitan Community Churches (MCC)
was founded by Rev Troy D. Perry in 1968 in Los Angeles, CA (USA). This
Fellowship of Churches plays a vital role in addressing the spiritual needs of
the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community around the world. For
those of us who were raised in a religious atmosphere, homosexuality was
usually associated with shame and guilt. As a result, many of us were cut off
from the spiritual dimension of our lives. Metropolitan Community Churches
provide an opportunity to explore a spiritual experience that affirms who we are’.
Comments: From the answer given by Mr Yancey the
following conclusions can be drawn: -
1.
Mr Yancey asserts that sexually active professing ‘gay
Christians’ are to be shown ‘love and grace’ and not to be
challenged about their sexual activity and are to be viewed simply as
Christians who MAY BE SINNING in a different manner to other Christians. Mr
Yancey is clearly uncertain about whether homosexuality etc is sinful in
the light of his phraseology such as ‘Even if’, ‘I’m confused’, ‘there
are a few passages of scripture that give me pause’ and ‘I don’t
have a magic answer’.
2. The concept of ‘gay
and lesbian CHURCHES’ appears to pose no theological problem for Mr
Yancey. He views the
3. Despite being a hugely
successful ‘Christian’ writer Mr Yancey appears not to understand the
term ‘unmarried practising heterosexuals’. Someone in his
position and with his influence should surely know that the Bible identifies
such people as “fornicators” [Fornication: In its more
restricted sense fornication denotes voluntary sexual communion between an
unmarried person and one of the opposite sex – Marshall Pickering Evangelical
Dictionary of Theology page 422].
4. Mr Yancey reduces
the MANY PASSAGES of Scripture that identify sexual activity outside the
confines of the God-ordained marriage relationship of one man and one woman
[Genesis
Question by Whosoever: How can other
Evangelical Christians develop an attitude of grace (if not acceptance) toward
gay and lesbian Christians?
Answer by Yancey: The only way
is through personal exposure. It's amazing how feelings change when
suddenly it's your daughter or your brother who comes out of the closet. In my
case, it was my friend Mel. The issues I had read about suddenly had a face, a
person with a story. When that happened, everything changed. That's one reason
why I think it's sad that the churches have so little contact. I have
attended gay and lesbian churches whose fervency and commitment would put most
evangelical churches to shame. Disapproving conservatives should have
contact with those people, and vice versa.
Comments: From the answer given by Mr Yancey the following
conclusions can be drawn: -
Question by
Whosoever: When my [lesbian] partner and I moved
to a new state, we began searching for a church home. I wrote a letter to the
local Episcopal rector explaining who we were and asked if we would be welcome
in his church. His response, in a nutshell, was that we would be very welcome,
if only we gave up our "sinful lifestyle" and sought out good, Christian
(presumably Episcopalian) men to marry. This is the reaction of many Christian
churches to gays and lesbians. We must give up our sexual orientation to be
accepted. What do you say to churches like this?
Answer by Yancey: I'm probably not
the best person to address a church like that--you are. Obviously, if a church
is saying you need to give up sexual orientation, that church needs some
education. I know of some ministries who try to change sexual behaviour, but
none that try to change sexual orientation… I would probably approach that
rector differently. I would point to how Jesus dealt with people who were moral
failures--I'm starting where the rector is, who sees you as a moral failure.
Jesus chose one such woman, a woman who had had five failed marriages, as his
first missionary. I would also ask if he requires all who attend his church to
leave their "sins" at the door.
Comments: From the answer given
by Mr Yancey the following conclusions can be drawn: -
Much more could
be written, not only on this topic of homosexuality and lesbianism but also
about other worrying aspects of Mr Yancey’s thinking when he makes
statements like “I also find a lot of spiritual nourishment in Catholic
writers across the centuries. They understand the mystery, and many of them
spent their entire lives exploring that mystery” and when
the interviewer makes comments like “Your books convey an obvious
intelligence and depth about your faith. You incorporate the thoughts of many
serious theologians including Soren Kirkegaard, Simone Weil and Thomas
Merton”.
Leaving these additional concerns aside and
returning to Mr Yancey’s comments on this whole issue of ‘gay and
lesbian Christians’ I firmly believe that there is only one conclusion
that can be arrived at. Measuring Mr Yancey’s comments against the
teaching of the Word of God Mr Yancey is guilty of what Jude
warned against in verse 4, namely of “turning the grace of God into
lasciviousness”. Mr Yancey is either not equipped or simply
unwilling to articulate God’s clear views on this moral issue and as a result he
is giving false spiritual hope and comfort to those who are in danger of
suffering the same judgment as their ‘sexually orientated ancestors’ as
we read in Jude 7 of “Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about
them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication and going after
strange flesh, are set forth, for an example, suffering the
vengeance of eternal fire”.
In
the Belfast Telegraph ‘Church News’ of
In ‘The Ulster Bulwark’ [Magazine of the Evangelical Protestant
Society] there is an article on page 3 about ‘The Lost Message of Jesus’ and
they quote where Steve Chalke said about his views on ‘penal
substitution’ as expressed in his book ‘In my view the real problem with
penal substitution – a theory rooted in violence and retributive norms of
justice – is that it is wholly incompatible, at least as currently taught and
understood, with any authentically Christian understanding of the character of
God or genuinely Christocentric world views – given for instance Jesus’ own
non-violent “do not return evil for evil” approach to life’ and he went on
to say "Hence
my comment, in The Lost Message of Jesus, about the tragedy of reducing God to
a ‘cosmic child abuser’. Though the sheer bluntness of my imagery might shock
some, in truth, it is only because it is a stark ‘unmasking’ of the violent,
pre-Christian thinking behind such a theology." The flaw in this thinking is quite obvious – for God to JUSTLY punish
sinners for their sin would not be ‘evil’ so when God graciously
punished His own Son on the cross as a propitiatory substitute for His chosen
people He was doing so in order that “he might be just and the justifier of
him who believeth in Jesus” [Romans 3:26]. God’s Son is “the good
shepherd who gave his life for the sheep” [John
Moral Crusades’ and ‘The Gospel’
The front page, lead article in
the October 2004 issue of Evangelical Times was titled ‘Moral
Crusades’ and herewith are a few extracts from that article –
The siege
of Beslan and the murder of hundreds of children plumbed new depths of callous
wickedness…How should the Christian respond to all this…Christians see these
sins and the hurt and destruction they produce and we want them to stop…It is
tempting for the church to try to solve these problems…Because our society is
blinded by sin we would like to help it set up safety-rails for moral behaviour
and barriers against self-destruction. Some Christians believe this is not only
desirable but that we have a duty to construct these barriers against sin’s
folly…Key moral issues…become the battleground of opposing worldviews and
lifestyles…But moral crusades ALONE have little impact…We do not say that it is
wrong for Christians to engage in moral crusades – but there are significant
dangers…Recent requests for Christian activism have included picketing school
gates where contraceptive pills are dispensed to pupils…BUT WHERE IS THE GOSPEL
IN ALL THIS? Advocates of social protest may say ‘the gospel’ is in the social
reform BUT THIS IS NOT THE GOSPEL that is “the power
of God unto salvation” [Romans
This timely and excellent article
has I believe spotlighted a very subtle way in which the enemy of ‘the
gospel’ has sought to further diminish the power and influence of God’s
appointed means of saving sinners namely “by the foolishness of preaching”
[1 Corinthians 1:21]. Lives truly transformed by God’s Spirit through the
message of ‘the gospel’ will be radically changed and morally uplifted
for the article goes on to say
‘Evangelical
believers know that controlling sin is not a matter of social reform. We can
never make a man better by enforcing a particular moral code. There is only one
remedy for the sin that lurks at every level of society – the gospel of Jesus
Christ, applied by God’s Spirit to the heart of individuals’.
A former Pastor of mine used to
quote a saying by a saint of God [it might have been Vance Havner but I can’t
be certain] who said ‘The Church is not called to “Christianise” the world
but to “Evangelise” it’. One quote that is by Vance Havner [see http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/vance_havner.html]
is this – ‘If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son,
somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone
home’ and I think these quotes together sum up the mindset behind
some of today’s ‘ecumenical moral crusades’ that in reality pose a great danger
to ‘the gospel’ that the church is called to preach and proclaim. A helpful
article giving guidelines to Christians on this issue is by Bill Jackson
and it is called ‘Pro Eternal Life’ and it can be viewed on http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/ProLife.html.
Prior to the publication of the
article in Evangelical Times I was already considering writing on
this issue as a particular book had been drawn to my attention. It is called ‘More
Than These’ and it is written by an American Pastor called Ralph Ovadal.
Pastor Ovadal had been deeply involved in the American
pro-life/anti-abortion movement when the truth began to dawn upon him that this
‘moral crusade’ was being used to further the aims of
‘Pastor Ralph Ovadal has for many
years been a frontline campaigner against abortion and writes this book from
first-hand experience, as well as many well researched sources. The purpose of
the book is to unveil the Church of Rome in its use of the abortion issue to
further its own agenda and to draw Evangelicals into fellowship with her. This
they have been very successful in doing with the result that the barriers
between
A similar ‘moral crusade’ that is
active around the world and that I wrote about some years ago in one of my
newsletters is ‘Habitat for Humanity’ [June 1999 – see http://www.takeheed.net/news10.htm]
that seeks through ecumenical co-operation to provide cheap housing for poor
families and the second of the Vance Havner quotes already referred to seems
particularly apt in this case. Ralph Ovadal’s book ‘More Than These’ can
be ordered by visiting his website on http://www.wcuweb.com/Default.asp
or people living in the United Kingdom can write to him to order a copy at Wisconsin
Christians United P.O. Box 771 Monroe, WI 53566 USA and if you
enclose a bank of England £5 note he will gladly send you a copy.
The Evangelical Times
article rightly states ‘It is the overriding responsibility of the
Christian church to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ’ but that must
never be at the cost of forging unscriptural ‘spiritual alliances’ with those
who preach ‘another gospel’. In his ‘Morning and Evening’ devotional for
the ‘Morning’ of January 13, C H Spurgeon considers the verse in 1
Kings 22:48 “Jehosaphat made ships of Tharshish to go to Ophir for gold; but
they went not; for the ships were broken at Ezion-geber” and I can think of
no better way of ending this article than by quoting the following extracts –
Mr Spurgeon wrote ‘Solomon’s ships had returned in safety, but Jehosaphat’s
vessels never reached the land of gold…The secret cause of Jehosaphat’s loss is
well worthy of notice, for it is the root of very much of the suffering of the
Lord’s people; it was his alliance with a sinful family, his fellowship with
sinners. In 2 Chronicles 20:37 we are told that the Lord sent a prophet to
declare “Because thou hast joined thyself with Ahaziah, the Lord hath broken
thy works”…Would to God that Jehosaphat’s experience might be a warning to the
rest of the Lord’s people to avoid being unequally yoked together [for
example in ‘moral crusades’] with unbelievers…for if it be not so with us,
we may expect to hear it often said “The Lord hath broken thy works”.’
Due to injuries received in a car accident the planned visit by
Robert Liichow has been re-scheduled for 1st
– 20th April 2005.
Concerning the
controversy over ‘communion’ Alf McCreary [Perspectives 9
October] refers to ‘this important Sacrament’ and tells of how ‘people
from both denominations [Protestant and Roman Catholic] are known
to share communion privately’. I believe that to truly ‘share
communion’ as Mr McCreary puts it there is one essential ingredient
required for any genuine ‘sharing’ on a human level to take place and that is “a
shared understanding” of what is taking place. As one who holds to Baptist
understandings on certain matters Christian I recently ‘shared communion’ with
fellow believers during their Presbyterian communion service and was quite
comfortable to do so as we held ‘a shared understanding’ of what was taking
place. The Roman Catholic Mass claims to be an actual perpetuation of Christ’s
sacrifice at
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