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‘BBC Trust’ complicit in Islamic misinformation

 

In this article I will be sharing with you exchanges that took place between myself and the BBC following a complaint lodged by me with them in July 2006. My complaint related to a ‘Pause for Thought’ contribution on the Wogan programme [hosted on the day in question by Johnny Walker] by a Muslim spokesman called Faris Badawi. Before coming to the exchanges I want to ‘set the tone’ for everything that follows by firstly quoting a short item written by an Australian called Paul Christopher that is located on this website – http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/3518

 

This is what Mr Christopher wrote on 2nd November 2002 –

 

Western governments and all those concerned with the threat of terrorism appear to have a critical failing: a belief in the myth of moderate Islam. The constant references to 'an extremist minority' 'hijacking Islam, Islam being a peaceful religion which prohibits suicide, overlook the long history of Islamic martyrdom operations, and widespread support for Bin Laden in the Middle East and Southeast Asia. There is not a single 'moderate' Islamic state in the world. Where are all these Islamic moderates?

Moderate Islam may be a useful political artefact to be used tactically, but a reality-based counter terrorist policy must be based on recognition of certain facts: that in Islam politics and religion are one, that no Islamic religious leader of stature has unambiguously denounced the 9/11 attacks, that religious figures are key organizational identities in Islamic terrorism, who have encouraged terrorism. It is a matter of record that the two mosques in Hamburg were meeting places and inspirational sources for Mohammad Atta's [9/11 terrorist] Hamburg cell.

We may gain much honesty in public controversy and debate by exposing the tactics of Islamic spokesmen and identifying their public use of centuries-old deception techniques, taqiyya [deception], kitman [dissembling], and 'outwitting' as part of their defence and denial of the nexus between Islam and terrorism.

Perhaps we may have to face the fact: that it is beginning to appear that Islam is the enemy.

 

Then on this link http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-9730604_ITM you will find another contribution that will help in understanding the meaning and outworking of taqiyya and kitman. One paragraph reads –

 

Taqiyya is inspired by the example and sayings of the Prophet Mohammed praised in the Hadiths (the sayings of the Prophet) as "the greatest deceiver", and praised in the Koran. Muslims have used taqiyya (pronounced tark-e-ya) described variously as "precautionary dissimulation," "religiously-sanctioned deception," "lying" or "deception" and "keeping one's convictions secret" and "tactical dissimulation" or "holy deception".

 

Keeping these thoughts in mind, particularly on the Islamic practice of taqiyya what follows now are the exchanges between the BBC and myself.

 

 

EMAIL SENT TO BBC ON 6 JULY 2006

This concerns the 'Pause for Thought' by a Muslim spokesman.

Why was this man allowed to respond to Mr Blair's recent appeal to Muslims to root out terrorism from their midst by being given airtime to TELL LIES about the aim of Islam and the teaching of the Koran.

The teaching of the Koran and the aim of Islam are to bring the WHOLE world under the rule of Islam. Islam divides the world into 2 camps - [1] Dar el Islam, the house of Islam where Islamic [Sharia] law rules and [2] Dar el Harb, the house of war where Islamic law does not rule. IT IS A DUTY for Dar el Islam to fight and conquer Dar el Harb and permanently assimilate it. That is the true aim of Islam and the teaching of the Koran.

Let's have no more whitewashed views of Islam - please be aware that in Islam 'Takeyya' is sanctioned. And what is 'Takeyya' you may well ask - it is 'the principle of deception' that allows Muslims to LIE under certain circumstances as sanctioned for instance in BUKHARI vol:4:271 page 168. As one researcher on Islam put it recently 'in the present context where Muslims feel Islam itself is under threat, we should expect the principle of deception [Takeyya] to come heavily into play'.

It certainly did on today's 'Pause for Thought'

 

Subject:

Pause for Thought [T2006082900GJS010Z1637561]

Date:

01/09/2006 10:48:49 GMT Standard Time

From:

info@bbc.co.uk

 

Dear Mr Andrews

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the BBC Radio 2 programme 'Pause For Thought'.

I understand that you have concerns that your original e-mail which was sent on 6 July regarding a Muslim spokesman being given airtime to respond to Tony Blair's recent appeal to Muslims to root out terrorism has not been responded to as of yet.

Your e-mail is currently being handled by our escalated complaints team and will be responded to as soon as possible.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact the BBC.

Regards

Jonathan Dunlop
BBC Information

 

Subject:

13122856

Date:

21/09/2006 12:04:02 GMT Standard Time

From:

info@bbc.co.uk

Reply To:

 

To:

takeheed@aol.com

 

Dear Mr Andrews

 
Thank you for your email regarding the Pause for Thought broadcast on 6
July.  Please accept my sincere apologies for the delay in replying.
The aim of the item you wrote about was for Faris Badawi to give a view on
a story that was in the news at the time and connect it to wider spiritual
issues. In this case, he was commenting on the Prime Minister's remarks
about relations between Muslims and Western governments and linking it to
the values of forgiveness. As a Muslim, he used Islamic references to
emphasise the significance of forgiveness and did not advocate the spread
of Islamic rule through deception or otherwise. We aim to show a diversity
of views from different religions as part of Pause for Thought, with the
intention of stimulating listeners' minds and providing them with a more
nuanced understanding of the various faiths.


Yours sincerely


Mark O'Brien

Producer
Pause for Thought

 

 

This is a reply to Mark O'Brien under ref.no. Re: 13122856

Dear Mr O'Brien,

To enable me to consider carefully what you have written please email me the full text of what Mr Faris Badawi said on the morning in question.

Yours faithfully

Cecil Andrews

 

 

Subject:

13371903

Date:

02/10/2006 18:53:38 GMT Standard Time

From:

info@bbc.co.uk

 

Dear Mr Andrews,

Thank you for your further e-mail regarding the response you received about
Pause for Thought, our reference 13122856.

As requested, please find attached a copy of the transcript for the
'Thought' in question.

Should you wish to pursue your complaint, at this stage you should do so by
writing to the BBC's independent Editorial Complaints Unit (ECU).  The ECU
is the second level of the BBC's three stage complaints system and their
address is;

BBC Editorial Complaints Unit
MC4C6
Media Centre
Media Village
201 Wood Lane
London W12 7TQ

Yours sincerely


Alison Wilson
Divisional Adviser
Factual Programmes

Pause for Thought 6/7/06:

Good Morning Johnny [Walker – standing in for Wogan],
The Prime minister said this week in answer to a question from the commons
liaison committee that Muslims should confront the extremists in their
midst and that we should get over a completely "false sense of grievance
against the west"

I felt this was a little unfair, for two reasons, firstly relations between
the west and the Muslim and Arab worlds have since the early part of the
20th century, resulted in events and actions that no one on either side has
any reason to be proud of, along of course with many things that were very
positive.

 

That's how history is, there are various elements to every story,
nonetheless there were actions by the western powers that should rightly
inspire shame in all of us, and the attitudes and ideas of superiority and
entitlement that underlay those policies should be
confronted whether they
appear amongst easterners or westerners.

My second reason for concern was that Mr. Blair addressed his message to
Muslims, not to Arabs, Pakistanis or any other largely Muslim nationality
but to Muslims per se, now it may be that at the moment we do not have a
very good reputation here in the west, but
a brief excursus into the Quran will the give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about.

In fact even if they are harshly treated the Quran advises Muslims that "To
forgive is nearer to piety. And forget not kindness among yourselves." 2.109

There really is no need to misrepresent history when advising Muslims not
to bear grudges, irrespective of what has happened and what was sometimes
done to subject Muslim peoples, a history with which Muslims are very
familiar, it is still the case that Muslims can demand of themselves, in
adherence to the tenets of the faith, that they must generate forgiveness
in their hearts for any harm or injustice that they have undergone as
result of Western or other actions, The Quran asks us when anger gets hold
of us to forgive and show indulgence, as we would wish God to forgive us.

No matter what happened or was done in the past, which now shapes our
present, we are required as Muslims to be patient and forgiving.

An ancient Arabian saying was "retaliation preserves life" I think in the
modern world that saying can be reversed and that now "forgiveness and
forbearance preserve life" because today our retaliation may be so terrible
that it could even destroy this precious world.

 

 

 

 

Reply by Cecil to BBC email of 2nd October 2006 under Ref 13371903

This is in response to Alison Wilson who in her email to me of 2 October tried to fob me off to the ECU. I had asked Mark O’Brien who had written to me on this subject to let me have the text of what was said. Having done this I am replying to him – not to the ECU.

A lie in the text was as follows -'a brief excursus into the Quran will the give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about'. -.

In response these quotations from the Koran will show that non- Muslims [infidels] have every reason to worry if they make ‘a brief excursus’ into the Koran –

'Believers, retaliation is decreed for you in bloodshed' (Sura 2: 178).

'Fight for the sake of Allah those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. Allah does not love the aggressors. Kill them wherever you find them...if they attack you put them to the sword...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme...If anyone attacks you, attack him as he attacked you' (Sura 2: 190-4).

'Fight for the cause of Allah' (Sura 2: 244).

'Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in Hellfire...As for those that have faith and do good works, We shall admit them to gardens watered by running streams, where, wedded to chaste virgins, they shall abide forever...the believers who do good works, whether men or women, shall enter the gardens of Paradise' (Sura 4: 55-7, 124).

'The true believers fight for the cause of Allah, but the infidels fight for idols. Fight then against the friends of Satan' (Sura 4: 76).

'Therefore fight for the cause of Allah' (Sura 4: 84).

Allah has given those that fight with their goods and their persons a higher rank than those who stay at home. He has promised all a good reward; but far richer is the recompense of those who fight for Him...' (Sura 4: 96).

'Unbelievers are those who declare: 'Allah is the Messiah, the Son of Mary'' (Sura 5: 17).

'When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them...'(Sura 9: 5).

'...make war on the leaders of unbelief...' (Sura 9: 12).

'Believers, know that the idolaters are unclean...' (Sura 9: 28).

'The Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. Allah confound them! How perverse they are! They worship . . . the Messiah the son of Mary, as gods besides Allah; though they were ordered to serve one God only. There is no god but Him. Exalted be He above those whom they deify beside Him! ...It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true faith to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters may dislike it' (Sura 9: 30-3).

'Proclaim a woeful punishment to those that hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah's cause. The day will surely come when their treasures shall be heated in the fire of Hell,...' (Sura 9: 35).

'If you do not fight He will punish you sternly and replace you by other men...' (Sura 9: 39).

'Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons' (Sura 9: 41).

'Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate' (Sura 9:73).

'Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you...' (Sura 9: 122).

These are not idle threats as the following extracts from a report received in the past few days sadly illustrate –

‘On Tuesday 10th October [2006] Paulos Iskander, an Iraqi church minister, was abducted in Mosul. Iskander’s eldest son received a phone call from the kidnappers demanding a ransom of $250,000; the family, unable to raise this money, were able to negotiate for a ransom of $40,000, but the kidnappers also demanded that Iskander’s church publicly repudiate the remarks about Islam quoted by Pope Benedict XVI last month. When Iskander’s family asked for proof that he was still alive the kidnappers held up the phone so that the sounds of crying and screaming could be heard. The family began to raise the ransom by asking churches and Christians in the area to help, and arranging several loans. Iskander’s church as well as several other churches placed 30 large posters around the city to distance themselves from the Pope’s words. However, before the ransom could be paid Iskander’s decapitated body was discovered on 12th October, dumped in an outlying suburb of Mosul. His body showed signs of torture, with cigarette burns, bullet holes and wounds from beatings. His hands and legs had been severed, and arranged around his head which was placed on his chest. Iskander’s family later received a phone call from the kidnappers, who taunted them that Iskander “had a lot of blood in him”.

In Baquba, 65km north-east of Baghdad, a Christian doctor was abducted and killed on his way to work in Baquba hospital. There has also been an unconfirmed report that a 14-year-old Christian boy was crucified in Basra.

Amidst the surge in hostility towards Christians in recent weeks, Christian girls have increasingly become the target in a spate of kidnappings and rapes. The girls are taken from their families at gunpoint, from their homes or snatched off streets into waiting cars. They are frequently raped and abused while in captivity, only released if their families are able to find the large ransoms demanded. The shame of their ordeal, which is felt far more in such a culture than in the West, can make the victims suicidal. In one case a girl killed herself after being abducted and gang raped by nine men. When the abductors allowed her to call her family she asked them not to pay the ransom. The family did pay and she was returned to them, but she was found dead the following morning; she had taken an overdose of sleeping pills.

In another case five Christian girls were kidnapped in front of policemen as they tried to obtain passports from a travel and citizenship department in Baghdad. The police did nothing to try to stop the kidnappers. Indeed police forces in Iraq generally seem either unable or unwilling to do anything to protect Christians, and it is reported that some are even participating in these brutal crimes against Christian women and children’.

Let’s have no more ‘lies’ about Islam propagated by the BBC.

Mr Cecil Andrews

 

 

Subject:

13503005

Date:

01/11/2006 14:31:24 GMT Standard Time

From:

info@bbc.co.uk

Dear Mr Andrews

Thank you for your further e-mail.

I am afraid that, as I outlined in my previous e-mail to you, if you wish
to pursue your complaint about Pause for Thought you now need to do so by
contacting the ECU.

BBC Editorial Complaints Unit
MC4C6
Media Centre
Media Village
201 Wood Lane
London W12 7TQ

You can alternatively e-mail the unit at ecu@bbc.co.uk

I have discussed the matter with Mark O'Brien, but he cannot add to his
original response to you on the subject.

Yours sincerely

Alison Wilson
Divisional Adviser
Factual Programmes

 

ECU COMPLAINT submitted by Cecil

 

Subject:

Complaint - Wogan - 6/7/06

Date:

01/11/2006 15:20:03 GMT Standard Time

From:

Takeheed

Reply To:

 

To:

ecu@bbc.co.uk

 

Dear Sirs,

 

I have been directed to you concerning a complaint I lodge re the 'Pause for Thought' broadcast on 6 July 2006. I think the simplest thing is for me to copy the complaint/email exchanges thus far.

I await hearing from you.

 

Yours truly

 

Cecil Andrews

 

 

 

 

BBC response to my last email received as an attachment – it can’t be copied to this document but my email response of 20th November quotes/explains the relevant sections

Subject:

RE: Complaint - Wogan - 6/7/06

Date:

20/11/2006 14:44:11 GMT Standard Time

From:

 

Please see letter attached. [pdf format – cannot copy to this document]

 

 

Subject:

Re: Complaint - Wogan - 6/7/06

Date:

20/11/2006 15:11:03 GMT Standard Time

From:

Takeheed

Reply To:

 

To:

rebecca.fullick@bbc.co.uk

 

Dear Rebecca,

 

I am in receipt of Mr Steel's response.The 'Editorial Principles' by which you are guided and governed were set out as follows -

 

'We WILL ENSURE that the beliefs and practices of the great world faiths are DESCRIBED ACCURATELY and IMPARTIALLY.

 

'We WILL ENSURE that the religious views and beliefs of...a religion ARE NOT MISREPRESENTED'.

 

Faris Badawi said on air a brief excursus into the Quran will give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about’.

 

I documented how this statement flies in the face of what ISLAM officially believes and practices according to its supreme and ultimate authority, The Koran.

 

The views expressed personally by Mr Badawi were INACCURATE and PARTIAL and they MISREPRESENTED the OFFICIAL religious views and beliefs of ISLAM as found in The Koran.

 

I am not satisfied with Mr Steel's response and would ask ECU to revisit this complaint.

 

Yours truly

 

Cecil Andrews

 

 

Subject:

Complaint about Pause for Thought, 6 July

Date:

27/11/2006 11:54:15 GMT Standard Time

From:

douglas.evans@bbc.co.uk

Dear Mr Andrews,

Thank you for your e-mail of 20 November to Rebecca Fullick.

We've discussed your continuing concerns and are now seeking a further response from the programme-makers.  This may take longer than we would wish as one of them is currently away.  Please bear with us - we'll try to get a further substantive response to you as soon as we can.

Yours sincerely,

Douglas Evans  

 

 

 

BBC response following their email of 27th November received as an attachment – it can’t be copied to this document but my letter response of 9th February quotes/explains the relevant sections

 

 

 

 

Subject:

Complaint

Date:

01/02/2007 11:14:40 GMT Standard Time

From:

rebecca.fullick@bbc.co.uk

Please see letter attached. . [pdf format – cannot copy to this document]

 

 

Bruce Vander

BBC Trust Unit

35 Marylebone High Street

London

W1U 4AA

 

9 February 2007

 

Dear Mr Vander,

 

Pause for Thought: Radio 2: 6 July 2006

 

I have been pursuing a complaint about this subject since the day of the broadcast and have passed through the initial BBC complaints procedure and through the Editorial Complaints Unit and have now been referred to you by Fraser Steel who wrote to me on 31 January. I am assuming that you will be able to access all the correspondence that has gone before so I will limit this letter to responding to Mr Steel’s reply to me of 31 January.

 

On page 2 Mr Steel listed some quotations from the Koran that the speaker, Mr Badawi had cited to support his ‘interpretation’ of what Islam teaches. Mr Badawi’s response is a classic example of a Muslim using the principle of TAKEYYA [a principle of deception] to try and prevent harm being done to the religion of Islam.

 

Mr Badawi quoted a number of Suras from the Koran and I will now list the Suras he quoted and show how they form no defence in the matter of my complaint.

 

Sura 3:159 – This is speaking of MUSLIMS who turn back from battle and has NOTHING to do with Muslim treatment of unbelievers.

 

Sura 5:8 – This is telling MUSLIMS how to conduct THEMSELVES in dealings and NOT how to deal with unbelievers.

 

Sura 7:199 – This is an early MECCAN Sura that has been ABROGATED by later MEDINAN Suras.

Sura 24:22 – This is for MUSLIM next of kin or poor and NOT for unbelievers

 

Sura 42:37 - This is an early MECCAN Sura that has been ABROGATED by later MEDINAN Suras.

 

Mr Badawi alleged that on sanctioning aggression ‘the so-called militant verses must necessarily be ripped from the body of the Sura’ – the reality is that this is precisely what he has done in order to misrepresent Islam as being just nothing to worry about’.

 

Mr Badawi wrote ‘you will not understand Muslims by referring to the Quran’ – I would suggest that you will not understand Mr Badawi when he writes about the Quran ‘It is utterly fungible and interpretable, the ONLY guides being conscience etc’.

 

In the light of this latest response to me I would reaffirm what I wrote in previous correspondence –

 

The views expressed personally by Mr Badawi were INACCURATE and PARTIAL and they MISREPRESENTED the OFFICIAL religious views and beliefs of ISLAM as found in The Koran.

 

In conclusion let me say this – there is much that is false being propagated publicly about the religion of Islam and the BBC is a major player in this misrepresentation. If they don’t awaken to this reality it will in the long term be to their great cost. I’ll finish with these words from my original complaint lodged on 6 July 2006

 

The teaching of the Koran and the aim of Islam are to bring the WHOLE world under the rule of Islam. Islam divides the world into 2 camps - [1] Dar el Islam, the house of Islam where Islamic [Sharia] law rules and [2] Dar el Harb, the house of war where Islamic law does not rule. IT IS A DUTY for Dar el Islam to fight and conquer Dar el Harb and permanently assimilate it. That is the true aim of Islam and the teaching of the Koran.

 

Let's have no more whitewashed views of Islam

 

Yours faithfully

Cecil Andrews

PO Box 13

Ballynahinch

Co Down

BT24 8AL

Reply dated 20 February 2007 from Bruce Vander

Dear Mr Andrews,

Thank you for your letter dated 9 February 2007 asking the Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) to look at your recent complaint.

I am writing to let you know that your complaint will be considered on the 9 May 2007…we will be in contact with you again in the next few weeks with the provisional paperwork being prepared for the committee. You will then be given the opportunity to comment on the breakdown of the complaint and the editorial advice being provided to the committee. Ant comments you make will be included in the final paperwork…

Yours sincerely

Bruce Vander

Complaints Manager, BBC Trust

 

Further letter from Bruce Vander dated 2 April 2007

 

Dear Mr Andrews,

 

Further to my letter of 20 February, I’m afraid I’m writing to let you know that your complaint has been delayed until the June Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) meeting.

 

This has been due to a larger than expected workload within the department. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

 

However I am confident we will be in a position to send you the committee’s paperwork for your comments within the next few weeks. Further details explaining the form of response and the time period in which you have to respond will be sent with the paperwork.

 

Please accept my apologies once again for this delay.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Bruce Vander

Complaints Manager, BBC Trust

 

Further letter from Bruce Vander dated 10 May 2007

 

Dear Mr Andrews,

 

Further to my letter of 2 April, I’m afraid I’m writing to let you know that your complaint has been delayed until the July Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) meeting.

 

Whilst investigating your complaint it came to light that we would require the advice of an expert, which therefore led to further delays.

 

However I am confident we will be in a position to send you the committee’s paperwork for your comments within the next few weeks. Further details explaining the form of response and the time period in which you have to respond will be sent with the paperwork.

 

Please accept my apologies once again for the delay, we are working to ensure that this does not become a regular occurrence.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Bruce Vander

Complaints Manager, BBC Trust

 

 

Letter dated 30th May 3007 received 1st June 2007 enclosing the pack that will be given to each Committee member as they consider my complaint on 3 July 2007 [DV]. I was given an opportunity to respond and this is my letter in response to them.

 

 

 

 

The Chairman of the Editorial Standards Committee

Room 211, 35 Marylebone High Street

London

W1U 4AA

 

1st June 2007

Your ref: AL/13878740

 

Dear Sirs,

 

Pause for Thought: Radio 2: 6 July 2006

 

I would confirm receipt of Bruce Vander’s letter of 30th May and the pack of ‘background notes’ that will be given to the Committee to enable them to consider my complaint on 3 July 2007 [DV].

 

Overall the pack is accurate to the exchanges that I have had on this matter although of course the contribution by Mona Siddiqui, Professor of Islamic Studies at Glasgow University was new to me. Her contribution can hardly be regarded as ‘neutral’ and should perhaps have been balanced by the ESC seeking another non-Muslim view on the exchanges and I would certainly have been very glad to recommend someone for this task who has devoted much of his time and talents to this subject.

 

I personally would have liked to have seen a greater emphasis on my refutation of 23rd October 2006 [see blue photocopy enclosure] to Mr Badawi’s claim that ‘a brief excursus into the Koran will give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about’.

 

I hope each Committee member will particularly bear in mind what happened to Paulos Iskander [as detailed in the blue photocopy] [readers of this article can read of this brutal incident on http://www.barnabasfund.org/news/archives/article.php?ID_news_items=233]

and also what happened in April this year to 3 Christian men in Turkey, as can be read in the enclosed yellow photocopy report. [readers of this article can read of this brutal incident on http://thepoint.breakpoint.org/2007/05/final_hours_of_.html] This yellow report is not a ‘new complaint’ but merely reinforces the case I have made and I would ask that each Committee member be given a copy of this yellow report to read [and weep].

 

Yours truly

 

 

                                                      

Cecil Andrews

PO Box 13

Ballynahinch

BT24 8AL

 

 

My complaint was considered by the ESC at their July 2007 meeting and the outcome of that meeting was posted to me in a letter from the BBC Trust dated 20th August 2007. The covering letter stated –

 

Dear Mr Andrews,

 

Pause for Thought: Radio 2: 6 July 2006

 

The Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) has now considered your appeal. I enclose a copy of its decision.

 

The ESC’s finding looks at your complaint, which suggested that ‘Pause for Thought’ breached the BBC’s editorial standards. The complaint was not upheld. I realise this will be disappointing.

 

A summary of this finding will be included in the next edition of the monthly bulletin ‘Editorial Complaints: appeals to the Trust’ which will be published on the 23rd August at the following address

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/appeals/editorial_appeal_findings.html

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

Richard Tait

Chairman, Editorial Standards Committee

 

 

The full transcript of the ‘findings’ of the ESC can be viewed on http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/appeals/esc_bulletins/jul07.pdf

And I shall be commenting on these published ‘findings’ in my reply to the BBC that you will be able to read shortly

 

What you will firstly read now are the important elements of the ESC’s ‘decision followed then by a covering letter sent by myself by way of reply to Mr Tait of the ESC and a letter that I asked him to pass on to each member of the ‘BBC Trust’

The ESC’s ‘decision’

 

The Committee concluded:

 

·        Faris Badawi’s comment, although drawing upon a specific understanding of the Koran, had not been inappropriate;

·        There was no evidence to suggest that Faris Badawi had used the principle of Taqiya and had thus been dishonest;

·        The comments adhered to the guidelines of authored pieces which entitle a specialist to provide a personal view in order that the audience can hear fresh and original perspectives on a known issue; and

·        That no one view could adequately address all interpretations of the Koran and that it was not practicable for every view to be qualified each time one was put forward. On that basis there were no grounds to suggest dishonesty or inaccuracy in the views expressed by Mr Badawi.

 

 

Richard Tait

Chairman, Editorial Standards Committee

Room 211

35 Marylebone High Street

London

W1U 4AA

 

22nd September 2007

 

Ref AL/13878740

 

Dear Mr Tait,

 

‘Pause for Thought’: Radio 2: 6th July 2006

 

I am in receipt of your letter of 20th August.

 

In it you wrote that I would probably find the committee’s decision ‘disappointing’ – you are actually quite wrong – I don’t find the committee’s decision ‘disappointing’, I find it ‘disgusting’.

 

Not only do I find the decision ‘disgusting’ but I also find the published transcript of the finding both ‘disgusting’ and ‘dishonest’.

 

Enclosed herewith is a final letter that I would ask you to photocopy and give to each member of the committee that arrived at this shameful ‘decision’.

 

Yours for the cause of truth

 

 

                                                

Cecil Andrews

PO Box 13

Ballynahinch

Co Down

BT24 8AL

 

 

Editorial Standards Committee

 

22nd September 2007

 

Ref AL/13878740

 

Dear Sirs,

 

‘Pause for Thought’: Radio 2: 6th July 2006

 

I have received the details of your ‘findings’ and ‘decision’ in this matter. My reaction has been one of ‘disgust’ and it has been compounded by ‘the summary’ put out by the BBC into the public domain. This ‘summary’ is utterly dishonest as it fails to sufficiently draw attention to and highlight the crucial words of Mr Badawi that were at the very heart of my complaint when he said on air –

 

‘a brief excursus into the Koran will give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about’.

 

I even emphasised this fact when responding to my review of ‘the pack’ of background notes that would be given to each committee member when they came to consider my complaint. It would appear that the BBC employs its own version of Taqiya when it suits their cause!

 

In relation to your conclusions I would comment as follows –

 

BBC conclusion

My response

Faris Badawi’s comment, although drawing upon a specific understanding of the Koran, had not been inappropriate

The issue is not one of comments being ‘appropriate’ or ‘inappropriate’ but of whether they are ‘accurate’ or inaccurate’, ‘honest’ or ‘dishonest’

There was no evidence to suggest that Faris Badawi had used the principle of Taqiya and had thus been dishonest

There was no evidence to suggest that Faris Badawi had NOT used the principle of Taqiya and had thus been dishonest. In fact the testimony of almost 1500 years of history, right up to this present day, indicates clearly that he was being ‘dishonest’ when he made the comments at the very heart of this complaint.

The comments adhered to the guidelines of authored pieces which entitle a specialist to provide a personal view in order that the audience can hear fresh and original perspectives on a known issue

The ‘personal view’ of any ‘specialist’ must still be subject to the test of whether it is accurate and honest – with the ‘licence’ of Taqiya any Muslim contributor is not bound by such constraints as accuracy and honesty.

That no one view could adequately address all interpretations of the Koran and that it was not practicable for every view to be qualified each time one was put forward. On that basis there were no grounds to suggest dishonesty or inaccuracy in the views expressed by Mr Badawi.

It may seem not to be ‘practicable’ to qualify every view put forward but on such a serious issue, literally of ‘life and death’, then an alternative view of whether or not a brief excursus into the Koran will give the casual reader… just nothing to worry about’ should be given airtime. Time constraint limitations have no bearing on whether or not Mr Badawi’s comments were either dishonest or inaccurate.

 

 

Let me finish by saying that the ESC members have collectively behaved like a herd of ‘Neville Chamberlain ostriches’ and if you don’t soon wake up to the reality of Islam’s Global Intentions then literally you may not have any heads to bury anywhere never mind in the sand.

 

The expression ‘BBC Trust’ has by this ‘decision’ been shown up clearly to be a living, breathing OXYMORON.

 

Yours for the cause of truth

 

 

Cecil Andrews

PO Box 13

Ballynahinch

Co Down

BT24 8AL

 

 

Concluding comments

 

The ESC and ‘BBC Trust’ in their published ‘summary’ made reference to Faris Badawi’s response to my complaint but they failed to publish any details of my response in which I stated - Mr Badawi quoted a number of Suras from the Koran and I will now list the Suras he quoted and show how they form no defence in the matter of my complaint’this omission looks like another example of ‘BBC Taqiya’.

 

When it comes to the matter of ‘truth’ the BBC are clearly not going to let that stand in the way of their own agendas.

 

By way of an ‘Appendix’ to this document and to further illustrate the dishonesty of Mr Badawi’s words –

 

‘a brief excursus into the Koran will give the casual reader the impression that on the score of harbouring rancour and bearing grudges Muslims are just nothing to worry about’

 

let me share some excerpts from a recent email received from Moriel Ministries and in the light of what you read ask yourself - is it true, as Mr Badawi has claimed, that Christians in places like Eritrea, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan and other unnamed Middle East regions have ‘just nothing to worry about’

 

Cecil Andrews – ‘Take Heed’ Ministries – 22nd September 2007

 

 

APPENDIX

 

1) Petition: U.N. must address forced conversions to Islam

'If governments abridge right to choose religion, how can this right be considered universal?'

WORLDNETDAILY - September 9, 2007

Headlines this week reported that Migsti Haile, a 33- year-old Christian woman, was tortured to death in Eritrea for refusing to recant her faith, and the European Center for Law and Justice is asking the United Nations to address what it described as the growing problem of forced religious conversions around the world.

"We had been getting notification from lawyers and human rights groups that this issue was growing, and we thought it was high time that the United Nations address it," Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the ECLJ as well as the organization's U.S. affiliate, the American Center for Law and Justice, told WND.

He said the problem is not necessarily always national governments, but local governments and area factions, which are "putting pressure" on people and "threatening people with up to death if they don't renounce their conversion to Christianity."

The ECLJ, since it is officially recognized as a non- governmental organization in special consultative status by the United Nations, now has petitioned the organization's Human Rights Council to address the situation.

"We would like to draw the Council's attention to the growing number of violations of the fundamental right to freedom of religion that are occurring around the world, specifically the right to choose one's religion and change one's religious affiliation," the written statement said.

"Forced religious conversions and punishment for voluntary conversions are commonplace in many countries. Laws against apostasy, blasphemy, or proselytizing are used in conjunction with anti- conversion laws to create an atmosphere hostile to members of the majority faith who voluntarily convert to another religion," the organization said.

Sekulow told WND that the problem is growing significantly in the Middle East, although total numbers are impossible to cite since so many of the cases end with the death of the person who converted from Islam, or refused to recant a conversion to Christianity.

"A lot of these cases go unreported," Sekulow told WND. "We think it's pretty significant." He cited situations in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Egypt as among those he's heard concerns about just recently.

The Compass Direct News report said Haile was one of 10 single Christian women arrested at a church gathering in Keren who have spent 18 months under severe pressure. The report said last February, Magos Solomon Semere also died under torture at the Adi- Nefase Military Confinement facility near Assab, and last October, two other Christians died from torture wounds.

The report said Haile died at the Wi'a Military Training Center, where she was being detained.

"As the Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion or Belief (Asma Jahangir) has observed, 'questions related to change of religion are at the very heart of the mandate on freedom of religion or belief,'" the NGO's petition said.

It cited other recent cases:

  • Just last month Fatah officials reported Hamas gunmen abducted a university dean in the Middle East and forced her to convert from Christianity to Islam. "Sources close to the family said that she would not willingly convert to Islam and she had 'called her parents to say she was being held against her will in order to marry a Muslim man---'"
  • India in just the past few days has begun considering new anti-conversation legislation. That's in a nation where many states already have instituted laws "that allow the government to accept or reject the legitimacy of religious conversions."
  • Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have used India's models as the basis for their own laws. "Under the auspices of upholding anti-conversion laws, arrests and private acts of violence have contributed to the degradation of religious freedom."
  • "In the last few months, the first Muslim-born Egyptian to challenge that country's restrictions on conversion away from Islam filed suit in the Egyptian court system to have his conversion from Islam to Christianity recognized by the government after the Interior Ministry refused to change the religion on his identification card. According to recent reports, the individual has since gone into hiding due to numerous death threats made against him, and his first two lawyers withdrew from representation due to alleged harassment by the government."



The NGO petition said the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations and endorsed by most of the offending nations, recognizes that "freedom of thought, conscience and religion" and "freedom of opinion and expression" are among the most fundamental of human rights.

Such rights also are enshrined in the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights (1950), Fundamental Freedoms and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966), the Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Intolerance and Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief (1981) and other U.N. documents.

"If governments may abridge the right to choose one's religion by relying upon regional practices or religious doctinres, how can this right be considered universal?" the NGO petition said.

The organization suggested the granting of the authority to investigate the claims, and a request to all religious leaders "to recognize the right to choose one's religion."

There also needs to be a provision that encourages governments to recognize voluntary conversions and prevent coercion, the NGO said.

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2) Iraq: 36 church members disappear, 1 returns

Minister warns of increased persecution of Christians

WORLDNETDAILY - September 1, 2007

Three dozen members of one Christian church in Iraq disappeared over the course of a week, and only one returned, according to a minister who is warning of the increase of persecution of Christians in that violence- ridden nation.

The warning from Rev. Canon Andrew White is being reported by Voice of the Martyrs, the ministry to persecuted Christians around the world.

VOM cited an interview with White on CBNNews.com in which the Anglican minister from Baghdad was describing the conditions for Iraqi Christians for a committee on religious freedom. He said kidnappings, torture and executions of Christians are rising.

He also noted the people's desire for Christ sometimes is overwhelming. The small church he leads in Baghdad was small, but has exploded to an attendance of more than 1,300 recently.

"It is an Anglican church, and none of my people are Anglicans," he said. "They simply come to church because it is the closest church to come to in the midst of great danger."

But White said the conditions have deteriorated at an increasing pace in the past few months, and it's sometimes hard to quantify the extent of the persecution. But he said he asked members of his congregation for their perspective on the situation.

"Things are bad for everybody in Iraq. I said them (church members); tell me what has happened over the past week. And the people went through what had happened and I realized that 36 of my congregation in that past week [had] been kidnapped," White said. Only one was returned.

During his testimony before the commission, he said although Christianity has been present in Iraq from the "foundation" of the faith - ever since Thomas stopped off in Nineveh and converted the people of the city to Christianity - none of its historic tribulations compares to the troubles today.

"In the past few months many Christians have had to leave their places of residence, especially in Dora on the outskirts of Baghdad," he said. "In Dora, many people were threatened with death if they did not convert to Islam or pay large sums [in Islamic tax]. There are now hundreds of Christians living in churches in Baghdad, where the provision of food and water is becoming increasingly difficult."

As WND has reported, radical Islamists in the region have been documented to be using a video of an actual beheading to terrorize Christians into leaving.

"In the past few months Christians have become a specific target," he said. "They have become targets of murder, kidnapping and torture. Sadly, there are multiple examples of this. Thirty-six of my own congregation have been kidnapped. To date, only one has been returned."

The reasons given for the attacks including not being Muslim, and belonging to a Western religion, even though that is not accurate, he said. - - - -

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3) Video of beheading used to threaten Christians

3rd-generation homeowners flee from Islamic warning

WORLDNETDAILY - August 16, 2007

An international ministry organization reaching out to Christians in Iraq is confirming the pressure from Muslims on Christians to abandon their faith or their homes is rising, with videos of actual beheadings used to threaten believers.

The reports come from Open Doors USA, which has had an arm of help reaching into Iraq for several decades.

The newest report from the organization describes the experience of Iraqi Christian dentist Shamir (a pseudonym). He got a letter condemning him for not being a Muslim.

"It said that he was impure because he was not a Muslim. It said he should leave the country immediately or face the consequences. And if he and his family hadn't left their house within eight hours, they would die," the report said.

"He felt rage and fear. Leave the house where his family lived for three generations! He had lived in Dora his whole life. It was the Christian district of Baghdad. Who did those guys think they were?" continue the report. "He remembered the story of one of his neighbors. They had not fled when the first letter appeared. After a few days, armed men came in and killed their dog. His neighbors left their house the same day. Within a few hours a Muslim family moved into the house."

Then, the report said, "Shamir" picked up a DVD enclosed with the letter.

"The DVD started with some verses from the Quran. Then he saw a young man sitting on his knees. The man was interrogated by an armed man wearing balaclavas (headgear covering the entire head, exposing only the face or upper part of it). The young man said he was a Christian. He lived and worked in Baghdad. Then the men explained to him that he was going to die.

"Shamir had not heard his wife coming in. 'What are you watching, Shamir?' she asked, but her question went unanswered as he vomited. Before their eyes, the young man was beheaded. Amal was sick, too. 'We have to flee,' Shamir whispered. 'Pack only what is really necessary.'"

Open Doors reported that within six hours Shamir was driving to Kurdistan with all that he possessed, completing his journey at an unheated home in a mountain village where his children cannot go to school because they don't speak the language.

Open Doors spokesman Jerry Dykstra told WND that the situation is just one of many similar situations he's heard, and they come from reliable ministry sources within Iraq.

Ministry volunteers, he said, report what they see and hear to various country or region directors for Open Doors, who forward it to the United States as part over "overview" reports on what is going on.

Open Doors said it estimates about 3,000 refugees flee each day to northern Iraq, and 40 percent of those are Christians.

"These figures are based on information from inside Iraq and other sources, but are very difficult to verify," the ministry said. "The figures are a good indication, however, of the present situation of the church in Iraq."

The organization said historically Christian neighborhoods, such as Dora, now have been "religiously cleansed" of most Assyrian Christians.

Christian churches also have been targeted by vandals, and in Mosul, a Christian told Open Doors how his brother-in-law had been forced to pay $4,000 a month to a Muslim group to continue his business.

Then the brother-in-law was kidnapped, and his family got a demand for $600,000.

"They have managed to raise $150,000 so far, but this was not enough for the group holding him. Negotiations were continuing with this man, but it's likely his brother-in-law has been murdered," Open Doors said.

Outright murders also are haunting the Christian community.

"On June 3 --- Father Ragheed Keni, pastor of the Holy Spirit Church in the Al-Noor neighborhood of Mosul, was murdered along with his deacons by unidentified gunmen immediately after the Sunday Mass," Open Doors said.

The organization estimates 200 million Christians worldwide suffer interrogation, arrest and even death for their faith in Christ, and another 200 million to 400 million face discrimination and alienation.

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5) Egyptian Christians facing deportation

Homeland considers them 'enemies of state' for seeking religious asylum

WORLDNETDAILY - August 30, 2007

Volunteers assembling a campaign to try to prevent the scheduled deportation of an Egyptian Christian couple say the need is urgent, because the couple sought religious asylum in the United States and that automatically makes them enemies of the state in Egypt.

The campaign is on behalf of Onsy Zachary and his wife Fadia, who have been living in the United States since 1998. Their supporters say they could be deported as early as the middle of September.

If returned to Egypt, they fear their Christian faith and statements concerning the punishments they fear will prompt the government, which formally acknowledges Islam's Quran as its source of law, to resort to torture as has been documented in other cases.

In fact, a U.S. District Court judge in another case on which WND has reported ordered the deportation of another Egyptian Christian blocked, concluding that Egypt's diplomatic assurances it won't torture Christians aren't reassuring, and the man in question "most assuredly has a right not to be tortured." - - - -

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6) Pakistan: Religious Minorities Told To Convert Or Die

Christians remain fearful after deadline passes for converting to Islam

COMPASS DIRECT - August 16, 2007

ISTANBUL - Christians and Hindus in northern Pakistan have received dozens of letters threatening them with death if they refuse to become Muslims, church sources and a police official said yesterday. Police continued to provide security around churches and temples this week, even as Christians received new deadlines for converting to Islam. Though the original August 10 deadline for conversion has passed, Peshawar's minorities continue to live in fear, canceling church activities and skipping services, a Catholic priest said. A spokesman for the Church of Pakistan said that on August 7 some of the letters had been thrown into the courtyards of Christian and Hindu homes in Peshawar's Kohati, Interior City and Cantonment districts. Peshawar Catholic priest Yousaf Amanat said that he had received a letter by mail telling him to convert to Islam by Tuesday (August 14). "I was away from the parish, and when I came on Monday evening the post was on my desk," Amanat said. "It was written that if we don't become Muslim we will be killed." - - - -

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